I wonder if Callaway can create/produce irons as awesone as Taylormade's P790. Boy, I just tested at the local golf shop and was impressed how easy TM irons are, feel and distance it gives with one great looks. I have been Callaway guy, mostly woods and irons, but got rid of my irons and I am up for new set. Any comments or recommendations for new set? And I also wonder if anyone recommend graphite shafts like Aerotech Steelfiber. I use STIFF shafts, but the last ones were too soft and balls went too high. I tested two Mamiya Recoil shafts, but not Aerotech, but curious. Much appreciate it for your advice. Thanks.
can't go wrong with the steelhead xr pros or epic combo set irons.I have both , for all out distance the epic irons are hard to beat. My xr pros have project x graphite shafts and my epic set has project x lz 95 steel shafts.The project x lz are the closest to graphite feel and dampening I have tried. The project x graphite in my xr pros are a little hard to flight down , but are not to bad to work right to left sometimes a little to left LOL.
I have not hit the TM new irons, but I would put my epic irons up against any of them. A lot has to do with how you get fitted. I did an hour fitting to get the right shaft for my Epic irons. I am not a fan of buying off the rack or big box store fitting. There is a limit on knowledge and available shafts etc.
Your preference all depends on how they adjust the lie and loft for your swing numbers. Steel head Pros, and the Epic irons are as good as any other brand out there. Its all about the amount of money you have to spend. In other words you get what you pay for. I know they are working on a new Apex head but it will be a while before we see it.
I took a look att he specs,
The TM model had a .5 degree lower loft on the 5 and same loft on the PW. also the lengths are stated on the .75 and.25 instead of the inch and .5 inch. for instance the 5 in the TM line is 37.75 where the callys start at the 38.
now we are done to selecting a soft feeling forged iron and a shaft. Callaway offers two models, the EPIC and the APEX that fit the forged line up. although there are leaked picutres of another iron coming out soon.
I am a recoil fan, the latest model that came out in the Steel head pro or the tourspx models certainly hit the ball lower.
However I would also suggest that maybe you would like to try a slightly heavier shaft say in the 105 range. it might just be the weight of the club is a catylist for a slightly earily release where the heavier shaft might be proper.
Just a thought
Steelhead Pro's all day long with KBS shafts. I don't see anyone besides Mizuno even coming close in that catagory. I didn't have the dialed shafts in the TM's, but the Steelhead was more consistent in dispersion and yardage. I am lucky in that just about any club i hit is going to get good distance. so the most important thing to me is consistancy of a club and with irons the Steelhead is the best i have hit as far as hitting the spot i'm aming for every time. There might be clubs that are longer by a few yards but honestly hitting the ball 5 yards further isn't really going to make a difference to anyones game. I want to know that if i put a good swing on it i'm going to be within 3 yards everytime. The second most important thing to me is being left or right of the target. My standard iron shot is a fade because I know I can control left or right of a fade easier then a draw. I have not hit a club that gives me the consistancy that the steelhead pro's did. Yes my MB's are more consistent on the low end of the bag, but they aren't quite as forgiving when i'm not playing at least 2 or 3 rounds a week. To me i don't think Callaway will have any problems staying on top of the iron market no matter what the others bring to the table.
Taylor p790 are a nice copy of pxg irons tech, I hit the p790 4 and 7 iron recently they are very nice feeling and definitely a bit further than the new x forged irons, but for some reason my spin rate on the p790 was very low unlike the pxg or callaway x forged. I hit the 7 irons from x forged 167 fly with 7,200 spin, the p790 174 with 5,100 spin and pxg 174 with 6,900 spin. That low of spin rate means it going to take a large first bounce before checking and is playing more like a 6 iron or even a 5. I also noticed that hitting the 4 iron didn’t give me that great of a distance, only about 200 verse pxg 4 iron at 220. And the pxg had a higher spin rate, leaving not much gap between the 7 and 4 only 25 yards instead of the usual 40 or so. So I’m not sure what the gaps are but 7-8 yards between clubs is not much. Haven’t been able to try the x forged 4 iron yet. I’m playing the graphite design tour ad di 95 in my 4 iron but Nippon tour modus 120 shaft in the rest. I did try the steel fiber 110 in the pxg, they were nice feeling graphite/steel/carbon fiber shafts but fitter said I was getting way to much spin and height with them. My iron swing speed is 90-94 depending on the iron, driver speed is around 110. If I were you I’d set up a fitting, you’d be surprised at what may work well for you.
I hit the P790s a couple of times and honestly, I wasn't impressed with the numbers. I liked the look and feel though. They are the exact same lofts as my 09 Burner irons and they produced identical numbers on both Trackman and GC2 on different days. The size of both heads is near identical as well. I will be making an iron switch to clubs with more true lofts in the future. The upcoming x forged irons look to be a real contender. They aren't as small as the Apex Pro, will still have that forged feel, and more true lofts.
The P790 are way too low spinning, in my opinion. Feel good when flushed, but they can't touch the Apex CF16. Have owned both.