Hoping to get some very good opinions from this group! From my previous post on trying the new X Forged irons, I tried several iron shafts, but seem to be in a bit of a dilema.
- Dynamic Gold
- Project X
- KBS Tour
- Mitsubishi OT
I am down to the Dynamic Gold and Project x...and used both previously. My Dad, retired Club Pro has been very loyal to True Temper over the years and thinks I should get the Dynamic Gold Pro shafts vs. Project X. He thinks Project X put too much spin on the ball and the new DG Pro was built to reduce the spin.
My current X forged 13' irons have Project X 6.5, but I previosuly had Dynamic Gold X100 shafts in early sets.
My swing does have a bit of a steeper angle of attack vs. sweeping and I put a ton of spin the ball. About to order my new X Forged irons, but can pull the trigger on the shafts.
Any thoughts from our group on iron shafts?
Thanks in advance!
Nippon or Mitsubishi OT, both in the correct weight and flex.
Nippons are easier on the body then other steel. TT or PX will wear your body down more quickly -- Nippons are smooth, come in a variety of weights - try the Tour Modus in a good weight.
The Mitsubishi OT has no spine- very consistent, even less wear on the body since they are graphite, get the right weight and flex.
If you’re split between the dg and the px 6.5. I would forget the pro and anything graphite. Steep attack angle usually leads to a higher ball flight. Hurting the chances of the px unless that’s because the club is coming back too far. The question may really come down to tempo and release. The x100 and 6.5 have very different profiles. I could be wrong but the px feels stiffer in the butt section. Whereas the x100 feels stiffer in the tip. Similar difference to a UST or Fuji wood shaft. All BS aside. The X100 is a monster that I cant get away from no matter how many times I try a c taper, px or modus. Hit thirty balls with each option on flightscope compare the numbers and make the call.
Well, if you are young, play competitively, and are a high speed, steep player with lots of spin, look at DG.
I am an older guy, and for a 40+, I'd say the OT and Nippon.
Of course, I've seen younger guys play Nippon, but you ought to get fit.
Get on a Trackman is my advice. I am an older guy. I took 9 years away from the game and came back this year. I have had 3 sessions with the Mizuno Optimizer and each time results were pretty consistent. Each time after I purchased the set my trajectory was too high.
My latest round was the 2018 X Forged and fitted into Project X 6.0. I thought they were perfect but the more I played in a little wind, I found longer irons were just getting ate up by the wind. I went to Club Champion and found some of my 6 iron shots were topping out at over 8000 rpm. Playing with Trackman and shaft combinations, swing weight combinations, and a slight tweaking of lofts, it was like magic. After 6 sets of irons this year I finally have the trajectory and spin I was looking for. My six iron average distance went WAY up, spin down to that 5500 to 6000rpm range, smash factor up to about 1.41, and all with lighter SteelFiber shafts. First round with them was yesterday in a steady 17mph wind and they made up for a very mediocre driver. The trajectory was very good and posted a 75 for first score of 2018.
I know this does not help your shaft specifics, but I hate to see you do what I did this year jumping from set to set guessing what might work. Get on a Trackman and you at least will be done guessing about data!
@rxk9fan Great reply and nice round to start the year! Thanks very much for the detail, specifics and your personal spin. That is worth way more than just a few numbers.
i did go to Club Champion initially, that’s why I am still confused . They were great, but of course wanted to put me in the $120 shaft vs. $35 Project X. Results for the Mitsubishi OT were not any better.
But I think to your point, I should just go back and play around again.
By the way, what clubs and shafts did you end up with?
I play the x100's in my callaway apex musclebacks. I love them, while they do hit the ball a tad high. I've learned that between them and the KBS c-taper 130's I had before, the x100's are a lot easier to flight when the wind kicks up. I play at a +1 handicap, and I like the flight of the x100's on the hard greens I play during tournaments because they hold a lot better. I agree with everyone else though, go tinker around an see which one you like best.
I will be anxious to hear how this progresses for you! Be sure to update as you go.
My situation was weird in that I had taken a 9 year break from golf after "catastrophic compound fractures" of both arms. I had tried 6 sets of irons this year trying to get trajectory where I wanted. I finally found it with the new X Forged and Project X 6.0 shafts. My issue was the combo was killing my arms when beating LOTS of hard range balls in cold weather off of cold hard range mats. So, I picked up some Ping s56 irons with SteelFiber 95 regular shafts. I had previously tried Recoil 110 F 4 Proto shafts in some Titleist CB irons this summer and they spun way too much, so I expected the same from the SteelFibers and it was true in the Pings. However CC took those light shafts from the Pings and put them in my X Forged, lowered loft a bit and increased swing weight to D4. Magic so far and I just paid 25 per club to use all the stuff I already owned. They pulled the shafts and built to my specs.
This is long and on my phone so I am sure there are stupid mistakes :-). Interesting to me that the Pings had a build sheet from Ping saying they were built at D5...when we put them on the scales they were less than D2. The Callaways are suppose to be D3 with the Project X 6.0 and were a tiny bit below D2. All summer I thought light shafts ruined my tempo and heavy steel beat up my arms. Come to find out, light shafts are great for me IF the swing weight is D4 or more. The X Forged are the bomb but I can play about any head as long as not too big. Shafts and swingweight really dictate my play in the wind.
Best to you Sir!!! Let me know your next move :-)
Think I just need to go back to Club Champion and tweak again. I initially did get fitted.
If you are young and competitive, most go with a steel shaft - DG Tour, KBS, C Tapers, Nippons Pro Modus, etc. Of course, the exceptions are Kuchar and Snedecker with Aerotech Steelfiber 95...
Guys in their 40's and above wanting to avoid future shoulder, elbow injuries, go graphite. I like the Mitsubushi OT, Accra I Series, or Tour, etc.
Good luck in your fitting.