I'm currently borrowing my husband's Epic driver (M+40 45 gram R flex shaft) and am considering getting one. I've been sticking with the excellent Ping G25 driver (58 gram R flex TFC189 shaft) up until now, but have found the Epic actually does go farther (the only reason to ever change IMO) and is a very high trajectory club in comparison. My swing speed is about 85 - putting my drives at around 200ish. I'm a draw player that can work it both ways. (Low handicap, Senior golfer)
I'd just buy a copy of what he has and tweak it a bit to fit me, but I do have some concerns over the shaft in that I seem to get more of a two way miss vs my Ping Driver. My draw is less reliable - sometimes it just goes straight (or blocked). I have a feeling the shaft has a touch of lag that causes this, unless my timing is perfect. The shaft isn't "whippy", but something is slightly off - maybe it's the movable weight? In any event - I'm guessing that the Project X 55 gram R flex shaft might help, though it's just a theory.
Any suggestions/guesses based in the info here? We are private club members but I don't want to impose on the Pro Shop for fitting since I'm going to buy used.
@Caligal My swing speed is probably not much faster than yours, but I have a quick tempo and transition. I usually don't have much success with a really lightweight shaft. Like @DonJ said, you can get that shaft in a little heavier weight. Shafts are tricky to fit sometimes just based on the specs. I have looked at shaft descriptions before and thought it would be a good fit for me, and then been disappointed with the results. Of course if you can hit a shaft first before buying, then that is better. Callaway Pre-Owned also sells shafts at good prices that will fit the Epic, if you end with a shaft that you don't like in the driver.
Thanks everyone! I didn't realize there was a M+50 out there - that may well be the solution but brings to question the difference between the HZRDUS T800 55 and M+50. Another option I also ran across is the Fujikura Speeder 565.
All I can find is slightly lower torque and 7g extra wieght in the specs of the T800 55. It's all mystic science however without testing them for feel and dispersion. Just to clarify - I am talking about men's clubs/shafts - I'm 6'1" and can keep up with most guys my age. :-)
Thinking aloud - maybe the M+50 is a safe bet...since the M+40 isn't far off.
This is a link to the 2017 Callaway Shaft Catalog. It has specs for a bunch of shafts, and a chart on the last page showing shaft comparisons with launch and spin. It's a pretty good resource.
Thanks PP - now from that it appears that the M+50 is only available stock as a Stiff flex.
The T800 55 R Flex is the next best guess although on CallwayUsed there are a variety of other ones in 10.5 standard length R Flex. I probably wouldn't want to go into 60g or higher though... http://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/golf-clubs/drivers/drivers-great-big-bertha-epic-2017.html#produ...
@Caligal If you decide to buy from Callaway PreOwned, you can always call and speak to a fitting representative. They can help you narrow down your choices based on what you are looking for. They can also tell you for sure what shafts are available when you get ready to buy.
@Caligal, when I read your post it could have been me writing it. I played a Ping G25 in a R shaft and went through a fitting a couple of years ago and got a Ping G30 in a SR or Soft Regular (Senior shaft) as my swing speed was in the low 80's as you. A year ago I went for a fitting for the Epic driver and tried several shafts. All of the shafts I tried were "A" or senior light shafts. I tried the Recoil 440, Diamana Green and the Kuro Kage all in light shafts. All of them out performed the Ping in distance and ball dispersion. I ended up with the UST Recoil 440 F2. What ever you decide I would thing you should try any of the above mentioned shafts in a A flex for your swing speed.JMHO
Thanks CarlT - I'm professionally fitted as well and regularly test new gear on trackman - consistently anything flexier than R flex becomes an absolute whippy mess for my swing regardless of who makes the club/shaft. They spray everywhere because it's like a clubhead attached to a rubber band. lol As I mentioned in the original post - even my husband's M+40 R Flex standard shaft is a touch squirrly (whippy) - which I why I'm considering trying the 50g class R Flex shafts.
One of the reasons I choose Ping in the first place was their tighter dispersion on all clubs - they weren't the longest for me but have always been the most accurate in extensive side by side tests of many brands and models on trackman. That equals low scoring more than anything else to me so I won't be changing my Ping irons any time soon. The Epic (now Rouge) is one driver I've come across that actually improved distance - but not accuracy - it's worse with the M+40... If I can fix that it would be worth getting..
Thanks again PP - Current up to date availability on shafts would be good - I'm also watching on Ebay since when Rouge drivers start shipping in mass they will be displacing many Epics and the prices should fall even further.