So in December I decided that I wanted to get a little bit more serious about my game and try to see if I could qualify for local am tourneys. In doing so, I thought back to the times that I played well as well as the times I played bad and one thing stood out significantly; my equipment and confidence with it made a huge difference. As such, I called Callaway HQ to see about a woods/hybrid and putter fitting focusing on the new line up since I am already playing epic driver and hybrids. Well two months later, the day is finally upon us. Thursday morning I will have my fitting which will include a SAMM Lab putter fitting to help my choose the correct putter for my stroke and eye line. I will be bringing my current driver, fairway and hybrids and gamer putter. I'll get based line numbers for each and then with my fitter's guidance, hopefully find a rogue set up that will help me get dialed in ever more. If you have any questions, please feel free to post them here and I'll do my best to get them answered honestly.
Here is my current set up
Epic GBB 9* with THP/Project X THCE even flow blue 65g - 45" playing length
Steelhead XR 15* with GD MT7S tipped 1" - 43" playing length
Epic star 4h with project X blue 85g 6.0 - 41" playing length
Odyssey MXM milled 1 - no alignment line or dot. 34" playing length with Japan issue Odyssey Pistolero grip.
@Alez367 I'd be really interested in the differences of the Epic and Rogue. I carry the Epic Driver, Epic sub zero fairway, and an Epic hybrid. Let us know what you find to be the differences in the 2 lines. I look forward to your assessment and findings.
@ToddJ027bWill do. I can tell you just based on initial swings at my local golf mart, rogue increased ball speed 2-3mph over epic with the same shaft installed in each. I'm hoping to see at least difference thursday but more specifically i'm looking to tighten up dispersion and launch. I know for sure the rogue fairways will be in the bag but just not sure about sz or non sz option or 3w/5w or 4w/hybrid.
Anxious for your results after the Thursday test.
@Alez367 can't imagine a putter with no alignment aids is the best option but I suppose the fitting will let you know if you're online or not. I specifically got rid of one of my favorite putters because there was no alignment aid and I simply could not keep puts online. The exact same putter with an alignment aid I'm fine with.
actually the reason the putter works so well for me is that there is no alignment aid for me to focus on. It allows me to focus on stroke and tempo and let me natural tendencies take over. That's why I use truvis golf balls. no alignment aid but the visual feedback on putters is vital for me.
update: spoke with my fitter and toulon design atlanta and portland will not be available for testing but the rest of the current catalog along with odyssey catalog will be available. Also I will be using both chromeSoft and Chromesoft X golf balls
@Alez367 Look forward to hearing how your day goes. Have fun and enjoy the process!
man what a day it was.
Before I begin the recap I'd like to say thank you to everyone that has followed along and asked questions. Minh was asking me and the fitter for thoughts and info throughout the fitting. Special thank you to AJ Voelpel, Anthony T., Christian Maki, Chris Velardo and Harry Arnett for taking time from their morning to speak with us and lead us around HQ on a tour. Your hospitality and generosity is very much appreciated.
Ok so we started this morning with my putter analysis via SAMM lab machine. Got there about 8am and got signed in with reception. About 5 minutes later My fitter for the day, John M., came out from the back and greeted us and welcomed us to HQ. We walked to the back and spoke about the process for the morning and how we would go about getting numbers and clubs. John has fit me before for putters last year I believe and I'm still playing the putter he fit my into. I rolled a few putts to warm up while he spoke with minh and casually observed how I was doing without trying to interrupt me or making me nervous. He definitely succeeded in that. Never once did I feel rushed or hurried to provide feedback or choice. Minh posted photos of the lab so I'll post my photos of my data after a couple photos of what I was working with.
So first he took my gamer which is a tour issue naked mxm milled 1. He took it into the adjacent "pro tour" section and got all the details for me. Length/Lie/Loft. All good
Then we began by explaining my misses and what I wanted out of my experience there today. Then we moved on to choosing putters to roll. We started with jailbird mini s then jailbird mini DB. Both rolled well but neither quite fit me. Next was marxman s. Amazing putter with good weight. Felt good and rolled better but the stock grip wasn't allowing for a proper toe over release. So we switched to the same putter but SS mid size grip. $$$$$ but something was still missing. Turns out wasn't much. In fact something needed to be removed and it would have been perfect. But that's another story. We moved on to a surprise John had for me: toulon Atlanta and Portland. I was very surprised to see them since we had spoken prior and he didn't have any available as out Tuesday. Started with ATLANTA at 35" with stock 7g weight plate. Rolled well and just about close. Asked for more weight so while he switched the weight plate I rolled the Portland. Big mistake. The small head with the top line was great for me. Started dropping putts on command. From 3' to 10'. Center cup each time..... John came back and handed me the Atlanta with tungsten weight. Even better than the Portland. Rolling smooth and just about ready for SAMM lab machine for confirmation. Just like the marxman, one thing kept the Atlanta from being perfect; the **bleep** sight line. All my putts were rolling on my line perfectly, pace and roll with perfect. Only aim was off. You can see in the photo below John even broke out the laser to show me what was going on.
Because of the sight line, I was aiming left of target and coming through impact slightly open cause a push right on almost all my putts. Seeing that the Atlanta was the one we stopped changing putter and made one change: John went and got black tape to cover the sight line. It worked!!!!
Check this out
This is my aim at address to target
Here is my aim at impact
And finally my stroke as I come through impact
For those of you wondering what my strikes look like without sight line and how accurate I am, here is where I hit the ball on the face of the putter (been told that's pretty good for amateurs)