First I like to thank Callaway for actually standing up to the hype and not disappointing us with an EPIC driver! (pun intended)
I am right handed and I miss to the right (push/fade) with a swing speed around 95-100 mph. I've been working on straighting out my drives so my miss has not been as bad as before. My previous driver was a TM Aeroburner TP 10.5* which lauched very high and spun a lot for me.
I recently got a chance to hit both heads side by side with the T800 5.5 shaft. They were both great but I felt that I couldn't find the middle with the standard Epic 9* head. I don't really have a fitter near by so I was tinkering with it myself. I tried several weight positions as well as loft/lie positions with the Standard Epic head but nothing helped my strike or my confidence. I kept getting a cut-fade that spun up fairly high with minimal roll.
I switched over to the Sub Zero 9* (+1/D-weight back) head and everything changed. I was constantly finding the center of the face and it looked like it was a better ball flight (no launch monitor). I haven't seen that many people in my swing speed recommended to the Sub Zero but does that really matter? Would strike really be king in my situation over swing speed?
Because the Epic is a $500 club I would find a Callaway fitter that had a Trackman that could crunch some numbers for you. I went through a fitting last Monday and tried several different shafts with the 10.5 and 13.5 Epic head all set at neutral positions and found the best shaft for my swing. Even if you are not a member at a private club most PGA pros will help you find the right head and shaft combination. They are going to make money on the sale whether you are a member or not. Even better is a PGA certified fitter. Not everyone has a Trackman because it is a $20K piece of equipment but like I said, for $500 I would find someone who does. Just MHO.
People need to go hit both heads. I myself have the Epic, and am in that swing speed range as you. I have the Rogue Max 65-s and it works perfect for me.
I tried the sub zero with the same shaft and I did not hit it as well as the Epic. Everyones Mileage will vary, best advice is to be properly fit for it, but if you found a combo that works well for you, that is awesome.
When I did my fitting with several others, some of us were fit for the epic, some for the subzero and swing speed did not come into play with the choice, it was a matter of which one worked better for each indiviual.
Sub zero is too low spinning with my swing and for me, I did not get the same distance or feel from it as the epic. My dispersion was tighter with the epic.
I have my epic at 10.5 -1 and in the D setting and weight in the middle. My usual miss is a right slice, and with this club for me at worse I have a fade. The club is a bomber for me, the SZ was not for me. A fitting will reveal what is best.
Do you think a 9 adjusted to a higher loft would help your fade since it closes the face a degree? Even though I already hit a draw naturally, I prefer the look of a closed face and add loft to my drivers to acheive the desired look.
It could help my fade but I like the kind of fade I get from the Sub Zero. It's more of a baby cut than a slice. I just like how the Sub Zero feels (swinging and at impact) and sounds over the standard Epic.
I will need lessons to truely get my drives to draw to the left.
@mjkladisTHP -- Can I take a wild guess that you have a positive attack angle?
Based on what you described to me, I think you could play either head. The one thing to keep an eye on with SZ is if you are missing too far to the right. Because you are already in the 'D' setting, you can't do too much more to combat the fade.
To clarify from above, the Epic head is fairly neutral in terms of CG location but with the sliding weight you can make it more draw-biased or fade-biased depending on what flight you are looking for. SZ has a neutral GC location and has slightly flatter in lie angle, so it will have much more "right" in it than the standard. The adjustability with SZ is about trajectory manipulation.
So when determining which head, look at what type of adjustability you are looking for (R/L vs. Up/Down). I am curious to know about your attack angle, because that can affect the feel that you were describing above.
Hi so I got fit yesterday and my swing speed sits around 96mph, I had previously hit both and thought the reguar Epic would be the one for me but the Sub zero gave the best numbers by far 10 yards plus. It was also with the Hzrdus T800 5.5 shaft.
I am normally a lowish spin player and can struggle to keep the ball in the air with some drivers so I was surprised the sub Zero won out for me. Amazing what the right shaft head combo does.